Smoke on steem-engine?

11 months ago

Wouldn't it make sense to get Smoke listed on Steem-Engine? Is this even possible?

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No, it wouldn't. On Steem Engine, with Scot sites you can get rewarded in 7 tokens (8) if you want so.

Talk about token dilution.

Besides, Steem Engine is yet to see any external value (new money).

Related: it isn't because we forked the Steem blockchain that anything Steem is our future. Unless, of course, you think merely down pressure, without any future token utility beyond dump that token 24/7 - and possibly just ads - is the future.

It would make a lot of sense if Smoke were to pursue a future which "decouples" it from Steem.

Flyby-crossposters may be challenged by this comment tho, but our witness server is flame-retarding wrapped so I'll take that risk. 👌

Edit: Downvoted because that question, coming from someone who never actively participated to the Smoke community beyond posting things posted elsewhere too, deserves IMHO no rewards.

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Still this is weed/ smoke related, and an interesting question! Not sure why the flag is necessary?

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Steem engine tokens are a layer of vapor poo crap!

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I expressed my reason in the edit part. I'm not sure, in a world of freedom, that rewards have to be a given as you seem to apparently assume. IMHO It isn't because it is related that a question deserves an actual [financial] payout.

The Austrian School model is not a communist system with guaranteed payout but the community will decide. No offense taken if larger stakeholders counter my rewards correction, part of the game. :)

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Well that is fine with me, at least this is not Palnet, over there they have blocked me, my mom, her friend! It is crazy!

https://steemit.com/community/@nopal4u/nopal4u-guidelines-1-0
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Anything is better than over there, you are doing just fine!

Screen Shot 2019-07-06 at 6.08.21 PM.png Thanks!
https://www.steemleo.com/palnet/@coininstant/palnet-and-swelker-can-block-anybody-for-anything

https://www.steemleo.com/palnet/@coininstant/omg-now-swelker101-has-blocked-my-mom-from-palnet-this-guy-is-out-of-control

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Imagine that if you can trade 5 tokens, all of which earned just because you used tags and benefit some trails, against SMOKE how that would devalue SMOKE.

It's not as if merely crossposting alone isn't a deterrent for investors already, but apparently an evil we have to accept in 2019 in this scene.

Participants (members) need to learn to think from the angle of "how can we make this token worth most in 2-5 years? ".

Not from the how can I accumulate most tokens. That will more likely than not lead only to tokens being worth only 1/20th or less than the other angle could lead to.

Complexity matters. Yes, distribution to a growing middle class is important too in this model but... complexity matters. Especially for investors and even more so if we don't want to be at the behest of the BTC dominance roller coaster (which eventually erodes all a token's sats).

Addendum: I am pro censor-resilience. I express my opinion by method of using my stake. Not by oppressing those I don't like. That's an integral part of the reason why we witness on the smoke network. :)

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You really believe Smoke can be more devalued as it already is? :-D

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Without a doubt. You really believe it should be worth more for what you’ve contributed? :D

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@unnamed, Thanks for your expert response. Anyway, I guess your arrogant attitude is the reason why this network is going down the toilet. I believe that when a few people (artists) were adding some content outside of tutorials like how to roll the ultimate joint certainly didn't harm Smoke as much as your narrow-minded perception does.

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Clearly you don’t recall I actually defended your crossposting artistic contributions despite not being cannabis related. Apologies for having done so, luckily I didn’t expect any return

It is funny you call it arrogance when your actual contribution doesn’t go further than ALSO submitting here in the hopes of a return. Then stating that, without any further contribution by yourself... it seems like this platform is... smoked. It seems like there’s people who expect a totally new economy to just happen like that overnight.

Maybe, probably, they even think that uploading digital images also offers investors a reason to give a token a value, i.e is token utility (hint: it’s philanthropy).

But aside from all that, I still think art is valuable and I love art. But it doesn’t necessarily contribute to the long term token utility for a blockchain which aims to build an “alternative economy”. Call that arrogance, I can accept that.

Sadly enough, I fear that it is your perception which is, obviously, narrow-minded though. Apologies, again.

the only reason I could see that "making sense" is to create a steem/smoke peg for an exchange gateway. though it would have absolutely no extra value and only be used for backend processes... still better work-arounds are available

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They would have to make a peg smoke.pegged, which would kinda like double our supply since they are not decentralized they would be able to lie & or cheat to sell us down to hell in a hand basket! They are totally scared of us, we are their wildcard threat, always remember that! I doubt it is a viable idea, we should just target Binance and or Coinbase listings instead! Sounds like a trap/trick to me! Careful guys!

This is point less as many have said, smoke is a blockchain no a steem dapp so we would trully have no use..

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Yeah, I was just thinking outloud!

Paint us some weed pictures, I will upvote that!

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Yeah, you need to see some weed everywhere! Smoke more so you get more relaxed when you don't see it in every single post!

No, it would make no sense! NEXT!

Un-voted because I don't think this thread is a productive conversation any more once I had time to think about the possible unintended consequences of such an action!

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Oh, the fear of further Smoke devaluation! You guys are funny!

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No fear, not sure why you think this is funny. Just my opinion which does not mean anything. I don't trust @aggroad, steem-engine, the whole crew! They block me, mute me, send bots after me, please take look at my last post about the abuse on me over there! Why would we want to have anything to do wit them! Steemit is failing, Steem-Engine tokens won't be around that long!
https://smoke.io/life/@hightimes/selling-my-weedcash-rewards-for-smoke

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Maybe they have a good reason to get rid of you....
But I agree, Steemit is failing. Greed an the bidbot-corruption killed it.
Smoke fails because of narrow mindedness what is so beautifully illustrated in this discussion. You guys should smoke more and relax.

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Why you getting so salty? You asked for opinions and got them. I wasn't trying to be rude or nasty. If it came off that way - my bad.. Was just giving my take on things. The great thing about decentralized networks tho is that you don't have to listen to anyone in this thread if you don't want.

Want to go for it? Go for it! A witness had previously asked a very similar question about using the created engine-tokens for a game created on smoke. It's not a dumb question - in my opinion anyways.

There are some facts attached to doing so though. These are not opinion based, just things that... are things...
Creating more down pressure on value should these tokens ever reach a market = true.
Creating more than the maximum circulation amount creates dilution = true.
Relying on parent chain for yet another thing, thus further attaching us to Steemit = true.

Obviously there are tons of variables that can change the outcome of those constants - they are not immutable.
But unless there was an amazingly solid plan in place to negate the inherent risks. Why bother?